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How Many Sins Do You Confess?

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SpeakerJohn Weaver
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SubjectNew Testament Studies
CourseRomans: Justification, Faith, and Imputed Righteousness: Sola Fide And Justification
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Date2025-08-14
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BookBook 131: Romans: Justification, Faith, and Imputed Righteousness — Chapter 7
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Synopsis: Pastor John Weaver examines Psalm 106:6 to argue that believers should confess not only their personal sins but also the sins of their fathers, families, society, and nation. He explains that we have sinned with our fathers similarly (being in their loins), imputatively (through original sin), representatively (through federal headship), nationally (as ethnic groups), and actually (by repeating their sins). Using examples from Daniel, Nehemiah, and other Scriptures, he urges Christians to acknowledge and grieve over corporate sin, agreeing with God about its wickedness.


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Introduction: The Question from Psalm 106:6

Weaver introduces the message by reading Psalm 106:6, which says 'We have sinned with our fathers,' and poses the question of whether we should confess only our own sins or also the sins of others.

The title of the message is "How Many Sins Do You Confess?" How many sins do you confess? One of the habits that I have is just to read through the Bible over and over and over, just for my own edification, just for my own pleasure. It does not count my study time. And many times when I'm just reading the Scripture, something jumps out at me, and this message stems from that, because if you will look at verse 6 of Psalm 106, the Bible says,

Scripture Reading — Psalm 106:6
"We have sinned with our fathers, we have committed iniquity, we have done wickedly."

Think about that verse momentarily.

Scripture Reading — Psalm 106:6
"We have sinned with our fathers. We've committed iniquity. We have done wickedly."

Sin is the problem.

Types of Sin in Scripture

He lists various types of sin mentioned in the Bible, including sins of omission, commission, ignorance, secret sins, presumptuous sins, family sins, societal sins, national sins, and governmental sins.

Confession and repentance are the answers. However, here's a good question. What exactly are we to confess? You say, "Well, we're going to confess our sins, our personal sins." Well, the interesting thing is, you may know some of your sins, but you may not know all of your sins. Moreover, there are other people who sin openly. We know of those sins when we see them and when we perceive them. But if there are secret sins of other people, then certainly we do not know those. So here's a good question in light of this verse: Do we just simply confess our sins, or do we confess the sins of others as well? And have you ever really considered the various types of sin that happen to be mentioned in the Bible? For instance, there are indeed sins of omission, there are sins of commission, there are sins of ignorance, there are secret sins, there are presumptuous sins. For instance, in Psalm 90 and verse 8, the psalmist said, "Thou hast set our iniquities before thee, our secret sins in the light of thy countenance."

And then David said in Psalm 19, verses 12 and 13, "Who can understand his errors? Cleanse me from secret faults. Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me. Then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression." So he's already talked about secret sins and secret faults and presumptuous sins. But there are more sins. There are indeed family sins. If you remember, I have two messages on family sins. There are family sins, there are societal sins, there are national sins. And it is possible for an ethnic group not only to sin as individuals, but also to sin as a family and as a community, as a society, as a nation.

For instance, when you look at Judges chapter 19, there were a number of individuals who sinned. Then the entire tribe joined in with that sin in defending those who had committed those particular sins. So you have all of those, and on top of that, you have governmental sins as well. Because since government happens to be made up of men, and men are sinners, it's not only possible, but it's actually true that men who are in positions of power collude together and transgress and violate the law of God. For instance, if you look in your Bible, since you're in the book of Psalms, Psalm 83, let me just show you very quickly how this works out. Psalm 83, let's begin with verse 2. And I want you to note, if you would, the family groups or the nations, whatever you want to call them, that are colluding against God and against God's people. So he says in verse 2 of Psalm 83, "For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult, and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones."

Governmental and Societal Sins

Weaver cites Psalm 83 and Psalm 94 to show that nations and governments can sin collectively, and asks whether such sins trouble us and whether we confess them.

For instance, when you look at Judges chapter 19, there were a number of individuals who sinned. Then the entire tribe joined in with that sin in defending those who had committed those particular sins. So you have all of those, and on top of that, you have governmental sins as well. Because since government happens to be made up of men, and men are sinners, it's not only possible, but it's actually true that men who are in positions of power collude together and transgress and violate the law of God. For instance, if you look in your Bible, since you're in the book of Psalms, Psalm 83, let me just show you very quickly how this works out. Psalm 83, let's begin with verse 2. And I want you to note, if you would, the family groups or the nations, whatever you want to call them, that are colluding against God and against God's people. So he says in verse 2 of Psalm 83, "For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult, and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones."

They have said, "Come, let us cut them off from being a nation; let the name of Israel be no more in remembrance." Now watch this, "For they have consulted together with one consent; they are confederate against thee: the tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assur also is joined with them; they have holpen the children of Lot." So now you have these tribes. You have these nations. They're not tribes of Israel, but they were tribes of people. They were descended from certain individuals. So you have all of these. So it's very possible, then, for people to sin as government. Every one of these nations had leaders. And of course, the classic passage to me is Psalm 94. If you will look very quickly at verses 20 and 21, I've given you this passage so many times. But look at it again in light of this. The question is asked,

Scripture Reading — Psalm 94:20-21
"Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?"

So a throne then speaks of rulership, authority, the throne of iniquity, so it's a wicked civil authority. So shall a wicked civil authority have fellowship with thee, that is, with God, when that wicked civil authority frameth mischief by a law, that is, they make sin legal. Now look at this.

They—who is the "they"? Well, he's talking about the throne of iniquity, the wicked rulers. "They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood." So clearly then, you can have governmental sins as well. So let me ask you now a few leading questions. First of all, do governmental sins, iniquities, and transgressions trouble you? Do you consider abortion, sodomy, transgenderism, theft, political persecutions, tyranny, and destruction of biblical liberties and freedom and rights as sin and wickedness? If you do recognize and acknowledge them as sin and wickedness, here's my question.

Do you ever confess them? All you have to do is look at the injustices in our judicial system. Think, if you would please, just recently of those Christians who were arrested for praying in front of an abortion clinic. And now each one of them—one was in his 80s and another one's 15, 16—each one is now facing 11 years in prison for praying in front of an abortion clinic. While, on the other hand, people are burning down buildings, raping, killing, stealing, looting, and they're not even prosecuted. So that should bother you. That should cause you to grieve. How about the immorality that's prevalent in our country today? Look at the broken homes. Look at the adultery. Look at the fornication. And does that grieve you? And so here's the question: Have you confessed those sins? And would you consider Deuteronomy chapter 6 a sin when God demands that His children, or our children, be taught the law of God? And instead, children, they are being taught a steady diet of Marxism, humanism, and pure paganism. So the question is, have you confessed those sins? Have you acknowledged them?

Now, David said it like this in Psalm 119 and verse 53. He said,

Scripture Reading — Psalm 119:53
"Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law."

Think about that.

Scripture Reading — Psalm 119:53
"Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law."

So has horror taken hold upon you, or at least enough to lead you to confess and acknowledge the sins of our society as well as our nation?

The Meaning of Confession

He explains that confession (homologeo) means saying the same thing as God about sin, agreeing that it is wicked and deserving of death, not merely naming sins.

Now, the word "confess" is the Greek word homologeo. Homo means "one and the same," lego means "I say." So confession then is not just simply mouthing words. Confession is not some flippant act or some irreverent act. Confession actually means when you say the exact same thing about sin that God says. When you take the attitude about sin that God takes about sin. In other words, real confession is not just simply naming your sins; it's agreeing with God that your sin is wicked, vile, and a transgression, and deserves death. Wow.

How We Have Sinned with Our Fathers

Weaver presents five ways we have sinned with our fathers: similarly (in their loins), imputatively (original sin), representatively (federal headship), nationally (as ethnic groups), and actually (repeating their sins).

What that simply means is this: We were in our father's loins when they sinned. Now, let me give you a good illustration. If you will turn in your Bible—hold Psalm 106—but turn in your Bibles, please, to Hebrews chapter 7, Hebrews chapter 7. And let's begin reading there with verse 1. And I think that you will see this very readily. Hebrews chapter 7, verse 1, we're going to read through verse 10. The Bible says,

Scripture Reading — Hebrews 7:1-10
"For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham."

"But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth." Now look at this. "And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, paid tithes in Abraham. For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him." Now this passage has reference to Genesis chapter 14, where Abraham fought with these five kings and rescued his nephew Lot and the other people as well. So Abraham then pursued them with his 318 trained servants that he had trained in his own house. And God gave him a victory, and on his return, Melchisedec, the priest of the Most High, comes out, and he blesses Abraham, and Abraham gives him a tenth of everything. And now the Bible says that Levi, the tribe of Levi, who receiveth tithes, also paid tithes, because he was in the loins of Abraham.

So Abraham sired Isaac, and Isaac sired Jacob and Esau, and Jacob sired Levi and his brethren. And so now we're talking about grandpa. And here, Levi is paying tithes in Abraham because they were yet in his loins. Now, if the good is attributed to the children and the grandchildren because of being in the loins of their father, would not the evil also be attributed to the children and the grandchildren as well?

Now, I want you to understand something. I realize that many traits and characteristics, dispositions, and acts are learned responses from observing fathers and grandfathers. But there does seem to be an inherited tendency as well. Something genetic. So let me give you several scriptures to meditate upon. The first one is Exodus chapter 20 and verse 5. Listen carefully.

Scripture Reading — Exodus 20:5
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them,"

talking about idols,

Scripture Reading — Exodus 20:5
"nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me."

Now it is true usually children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren do what their fathers and grandfathers have done. That is true, but I believe there's also some inherited tendencies and weaknesses as well as learned responses. Here's another one. Listen to Exodus chapter 34 and verse 7. God says,

Scripture Reading — Exodus 20:5
"Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."

Wow. Now, I want to show you two, and I want you to turn with me. I want you to turn to 2 Chronicles, chapter 30, and then Zechariah, chapter 1. So you have 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, 1 and 2 Chronicles. And then Zechariah is right before the book of Malachi, which is the last book in the Bible. So Zechariah is next to the last book of the Bible. So look, first of all, if you would please, at 2 Chronicles, chapter 30.

And let's read verses 7 and 8. 2 Chronicles, chapter 30. Look, if you would please, verses 7 and 8. Look what God says.

Scripture Reading — 2 Chronicles 30:7-8
"And be not ye like your fathers, and like your brethren, who trespassed against the Lord God of their fathers, who therefore gave them up to desolation, as ye see. Now be ye not stiffnecked, as your fathers were, but yield yourselves unto the Lord, and enter into his sanctuary, which he hath sanctified for ever: and serve the Lord your God, that the fierceness of his wrath may turn away from you."

Isn't that amazing?

Scripture Reading — 2 Chronicles 30:7-8
"Be not like your fathers and like your brethren."

And then He says in verse 8,

Scripture Reading — 2 Chronicles 30:7-8
"Be not ye stiffnecked, as your fathers were."

Now if you will turn in your Bibles to the book of Zechariah chapter 1 and look, if you would please, at verse 4. Zechariah chapter 1 and verse 4. Look at it again. God says, "Be ye not as your fathers, unto whom the former prophets have cried, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Turn ye now from your evil ways, and from your evil doings: but they did not hear, nor hearken unto me, saith the Lord."

Again, God says, "Be not as your fathers." So clearly, obviously, we are all sinners. And the one thing that is going to distinguish an individual from their erring and sinning fathers and grandfathers and everyone else is just simply the sovereign grace of God when God gives them repentance and God gives them faith and draws them unto Himself. So we have sinned with our fathers, similarly, because we were in their loins. Secondly, we have sinned with our fathers imputatively. That is, sin has been imputed to us. Now, that is certainly true in relationship to Adam, who is our first father. Please remember this. Consequently, in light of original sin, physical life always ends in death. You remember that passage in Genesis chapter 2, verses 16 and 17, where the Bible says, "And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." And of course, Adam did die spiritually first of all; later on he did die physically as well. So death, then, is the consequence of sin. That's why the Bible says in Romans 6 and verse 23, "For the wages of sin is death." Now, I want you to turn in your Bibles to the book of Romans chapter 5, because I want you to see this, that we have sinned in our fathers imputatively. As I quote Romans 5 and verse 12, the Word of God says this—watch carefully.

Scripture Reading — Romans 5:12-19
"Wherefore, as by one man"

—that would be Adam—

Scripture Reading — Romans 5:12-19
"sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned."

And when you get that "all have sinned," it's an aorist passive, which means it's happened once and for all, and it's over with. Well, when did we sin all at one time, once and for all, and it's over with? And that would be in Adam. Now, I want you to watch carefully, because we're going to begin reading in Romans chapter 5 with verse 14, and I want you to see there's a comparison now between the first Adam and the last Adam, and you're going to see imputation. So look in Romans 5, beginning with verse 14. "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."

Now that's an interesting sermon in and of itself. How was Adam a type of Christ? How was Adam a type or a figure of Christ? Because Adam failed when Christ did not, but the Bible says he was a figure of him that was to come. Now watch what he says in verse 15. "But not as the offence"—that is the sin of Adam—"so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one"—that's Adam—"many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many." Watch this now. "And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. Therefore as by the offence of one"—Adam—"judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one"—Jesus Christ—"the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."

"For as by one man's disobedience"—Adam—"many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." Now, the proof of imputation and the proof of original sin is very simple. It is death. You can deny original sin all you want to, you can deny the doctrine of imputation all you want to, but the truth of the matter is you're going to die. And that's proof positive that imputation is true, and original sin is true.

Now, original sin always issues forth in actual sin, which I will explain a little bit later. But we do not become sinners when we sin. We sin because we're sinners. Okay? Because it has been imputed to us. So we have sinned with our fathers similarly because we were in their loins. We have sinned with them imputatively because their sins have been imputed. That's why the Bible says in 1 Corinthians chapter 15 and verse 22,

Scripture Reading — 1 Corinthians 15:22
"For as in Adam all die."

And so thirdly, we sinned with our fathers representatively. Adam, who

was our first father, in one sense of the word of all humans, was our head, was our federal representative. What he did, we did. We were not only in his loins; he was our representative. Moreover, listen carefully, we sin with our earthly fathers today in the sense that their sins always affect their wives and their children. Whatever the father, who happens to be the head of the house, does, it infects, it affects his entire household. We suffer with the sins of our parents, for they are our representatives while we are their children. Paul stated this clearly in Galatians chapter 4, verses 1 through 3. Now listen to what he said.

He said, "Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all." So if my father happened to have been, say, a multimillionaire—he was not—and I was his only son, and I'm three and four and five years old, and seven and eight and nine and ten years old, I might be an heir, but I'm still a child, and I'm under the discipline of my father, and he is my head and my representative, and what he does, in one sense of the word, I do as well, because he is over me, he is responsible for me. I have no control—I had no control as a child over the actions of my parents. They did what they did, and that's all there is to it. They are our representatives. Now you're going to say, "But that's not fair." Before you say that, may I remind you that that is in reality the kind of government that we have or that we are supposed to have. Because our elected officials are our representatives. In truth, they are to represent us, even though they really do not. They're supposed to represent us.

And whether we like it or not, whatever they do, we do. Whatever mess they get in, they get us in. How many of you voted to go to Ukraine and send money to Ukraine? How many voted to send money to Jerusalem or to Israel? How many voted to tear down the wire at the Texas border? No, no, no. You see what I'm saying? They're supposed to be representing us, although they're not. But whatever mess they get into, we are into as well. Now, although that sounds bad, hang on.

I want to look in your Bibles at 1 Corinthians chapter 15, 1 Corinthians 15. Look, if you would, and let's begin reading there with verse 45. So it is true that we've sinned in our fathers representatively, but there is something else to that as well. So in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, look at verse 45. The Bible says,

Scripture Reading — 1 Corinthians 15:45-49
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly."

Now here's a question that you need to consider. How is Jesus Christ referred to as the second man, and Adam is referred to as the first man, when we know that Jesus Christ existed far before Adam was ever created, because Jesus Christ is the eternal God? Why is Jesus Christ called the second man? And the answer is because Jesus Christ was the second chronologically to be the federal head and representative of a people. Now, I stated that Adam was our representative. He was our federal head. And what he did, we did. When he sinned, we sinned. When he fell, we fell. You may not like that truth, but if you don't like the truth of representation and federal headship, then you don't really like the truth of salvation, because the failure of the first man set the stage for the success of the second man.

Now, the truth of the matter is, the Bible says in Romans chapter 6—in fact, turn right back there, you're almost there—look in Romans chapter 6, and notice if you would beginning there with verse 3. Romans 6 and verse 3. The Bible says,

Scripture Reading — Romans 6:3-5
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection."

Now, the Bible tells us in this passage that we died with Christ, we were buried with Christ, we were raised from the dead in Christ. And when you read Ephesians chapter 2 verses 5 and 6, it not only says that we died with Him and were buried with Him and raised with Him, it also teaches that we ascended with Him and were seated at the right hand of God the Father in Jesus Christ.

Why? Because Jesus Christ was our federal head and our representative. In Adam, we lost everything. In Jesus Christ, we got more than we ever had in Adam, because now we not only have a perfect forgiveness, we have a perfect obedience, we have an absolutely perfect righteousness, because He is our head and our representative. And what He did, we did. Now, I don't know if you noticed or not, as we read 1 Corinthians 15, Jesus Christ was called the last Adam. Why is Jesus Christ called the last Adam? There's a contrast between the first Adam and the last Adam. Jesus Christ is called the last Adam because He is the last one to sustain this federal headship in representation with the people.

Let me explain it like this. Bad English, bad grammar, but good truth: there ain't gonna be another savior. There's not going to be another way of salvation. So if someone is not saved by Jesus Christ, he is not going to be saved, period. So how did we sin with our fathers so far? We sinned with them similarly—we were in their loins. We sinned with them imputatively.

Their sins were imputed to us. We sinned with them representatively. They were our representatives. Adam was, but so were our parents. But here's the fourth. Listen to this. We sin with our parents nationally. Nationally. In order to understand this, you must understand that Israel was a nation. However, you've got to understand something else. A nation, according to the Bible, was and is a family or a specific ethnic group.

Bill Evans, one of my good friends, said it like this. And I'm quoting him here. He said, "Biblically, however, nation or ethnos, which is the Greek word, is not an amalgamated conglomeration of people from different linguistic, cultural, political, or religious persuasions. It is a particular people group akin to a large extended family." And that is certainly true. In fact, we notice that in Psalm 83. There were the Philistines. There were the Hagarenes. There were Moabites. There were the Ammonites. Then the Amalekites. All of these are extended families. They may be nations, but they're people who were related to each other.

So when God told Abraham in Genesis chapter 12 and verse 2, "And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing," the nation that God promised Abraham would be those of his family or those of his descendants. So I want you to understand something. Nations or families act together in many ways and in many areas. There are family groups that sin against God. There are family groups that hate the Lord Jesus Christ. There are family groups that despise the law of God. Look at the Muslims. Look at the Chinese. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions, but I am saying as a general rule, they don't worship the Lord Jesus Christ, they don't obey Him, they're not concerned with His law. But just like there are family groups and ethnic groups that hate Him, there are those that love Him and want to obey Him as well. Now, look in your Bibles, if you would, to Psalm 43 to begin with.

Psalm 43. And look at verse 1 and what David prays. Psalm 43 and verse 1. You remember David had to fight the Moabites. He had to fight the Philistines. He had to fight different kinds of nations. And so he prays in verse 1, "Judge me, O God, and plead my cause against an ungodly nation: O deliver me from the deceitful and unjust man." I don't know what nation he was praying about or against in this particular psalm, but he's praying against a people group, a family that hated him and hated God. If you look in your Bibles to the book of Isaiah chapter 1, Isaiah chapter 1, and look at verse 4. And look what God says about Judah and Jerusalem. He's talking about the southern kingdom. He says in verse 4, "Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward." And if you'll go back to verse 1, "The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah." And then he calls them in verse 4, "a sinful nation, a people laden." So what in the world were Judah and Jerusalem? They were an ethnic group of people.

They were descendants of Jacob. There were the Benjamites. There were the Judahites and the Simeonites all living in the southern kingdom. But they were a people group. Everybody knows that passage in Psalm 33 and verse 12 where the Bible says, "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance." If you would read Jeremiah 23 and Ezekiel 22, you will discover that God always condemns a nation, usually by condemning the prophets, the priests, the princes, and the people. He lists them all and he condemns them as people, but it's one nation. That's why in Jeremiah chapter 5 and verse 23, God says this, "But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone." This people, this nation, hath a rebellious and revolting heart. All you have to do to understand this is look around at America. We don't have to consider the illegal immigrants. We don't have to consider the people who come with their different religions and their different cultures. Look at what happened to America before all of this ever transpired. We were going downhill, downhill, downhill. We're going faster now, but I don't care which country you look at. Look at Germany. Look at Spain. Look at Mexico.

All I'm simply saying is nations sin nationally because nations are made up of ethnic groups. They're made up of families of people, and those people either love God or hate Him. They either love His law or they hate His law. Period. So yes, we've sinned with them similarly. We've sinned with them imputatively. We've sinned with them representatively. We've sinned with them nationally. And here's the fifth one. We've sinned actually with our fathers.

Now, we end up committing the same sins that our fathers committed. History does not repeat itself. It is sin that repeats itself and brings the same consequences, conditions, and judgments. Hence we say history repeats itself. It's not history. You may charge it to history, but sin is the culprit. The truth is that we often not only commit the same sins of our fathers, but we go over and above and beyond those sins and we make them worse.

Biblical Examples of Corporate Confession

He points to Nehemiah, Daniel, and Psalm 106 as examples of men who confessed not only their own sins but the sins of their people and fathers.

So I want you to look in your Bibles, if you would, first of all, to the book of Nehemiah—Ezra, Nehemiah. You'll get through 2 Chronicles, and then you're going to hit Ezra and then Nehemiah. And look at Nehemiah chapter 1 and verse 6. Nehemiah 1 and look in verse 6. Nehemiah is praying. And here's what he says.

Scripture Reading — Nehemiah 1:6
"Let thine ear now be attentive, and thine eyes open, that thou mayest hear the prayer of thy servant, which I pray before thee now, day and night, for the children of Israel thy servants."

Now look,

Scripture Reading — Nehemiah 1:6
"and confess the sins of the children of Israel, which we have sinned against thee: both I and my father's house have sinned."

Wow. Do you realize he's not only confessing his individual sins, he's confessing the sins of his people, the children of Israel, those of his father's house. If you look in your Bibles, Nehemiah chapter 9 and verse 2. Nehemiah 9 verse 2. The Bible says, "And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers."

So they're not just confessing their individual sins. They said, "Our fathers have sinned too. They helped get us into this mess. We're here together. We've sinned." Then if you'd turn back in your Bibles to 1 Kings chapter 14, 1 Kings chapter 14, and I want you to look at verse 22. 1 Kings chapter 14 and verse 22. Not only do we commit the sins of our fathers, we go over and above and beyond those sins many times. 1 Kings 14 verse 22, "And Judah did evil in the sight of the Lord, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done." They were worse than their fathers. If you would turn over to 2 Kings chapter 15 and look at verse 9.

You're going to read about Zachariah, the son of Jeroboam. 2 Kings chapter 15, verse 9, look what the Bible says. "And he did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord, as his fathers had done: he departed not from the sins of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin." Now, I want you to turn to the book of Daniel. And I want you to hold this chapter, Daniel 9, right after the book of Ezekiel. And I want you to hold it because we're going to come back there just momentarily. So after the book of Ezekiel, you've got Daniel, Daniel 9, looking you would please at verse 16. Now look at what Daniel is praying. Look what he says. Watch this.

"O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem, thy holy mountain: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us." So he's asking forgiveness for "our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers." Now, I want you to hold the book of Daniel, but I want you to go back to Psalm 106. I want to show you this. I said that we've sinned with our fathers in many ways. And I have showed you where a lot of people just repeat the sin, repeat the sin of their fathers, and sometimes they are worse than their fathers. But I want you to see this, and when you get home this afternoon, you may finish reading Psalm 106. It's a wonderful psalm.

But let's read verse 6 again, and watch this. "We have sinned with our fathers. We have committed iniquity. We have done wickedly." Well, how did our fathers sin, and how is it that we sin like them? Look in verse 7. "Our fathers understood not thy wonders in Egypt; they remembered not the multitude of thy mercies; but provoked him at the sea, even at the Red sea." So let me ask you a question. Have you ever meditated on the wonders of God, not just in times past, not just in history, but the wonders of God even being performed today? Have you ever thought about it's a miracle that you're spared? It's a miracle that your family's spared. It's a miracle that God lets any of us live. And then he said, "And they remembered not the multitude of thy mercies." How many times God has been merciful to us? We've never thanked Him. We've never thought about it.

Application: Confessing Corporate Sins

Weaver challenges listeners to confess the sins of their families, society, church, and nation, acknowledging them before God and grieving over them.

One author said it like this. Listen carefully. "We have sinned with our fathers. That is, like our fathers, after the similitude of their transgression. We have added to the stock of hereditary guilt and filled up the measure of our father's iniquity to augment the fierce anger of the Lord." So what he's saying is we're doing the same thing, even worse, and we're augmenting, we're building up, we're storing up the fierce anger of God against us.

Now, I want you to go back to Daniel chapter 9. I want you to watch this with me. Daniel chapter 9. And I want us to begin reading with verse 5. Daniel 9, verse 5, I want you to pay close attention to what he says. Daniel 9, verse 5. In fact, let's begin with verse 4, just so you can see his prayer. He said, "And I prayed unto the Lord my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments; we have sinned." Now notice, it's not just that "I have sinned." He includes himself.

"We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land. O Lord, righteousness belongeth unto thee, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and unto all Israel, that are near, and that are far off, through all the countries whither thou hast driven them, because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee. O Lord, to us belongeth confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee. To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him; neither have we obeyed the voice of the Lord our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets. Yea, all Israel"

"have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him." But I want you to notice what he's doing. He's confessing not just his sins, but the sins of his people and the sins of his nation. Here's the thing. I understand and I know that you may not be able to repent for the sins of your family members. You will not be able to repent for the sins of society. You will not be able to repent for the sins of the nations. But you may recognize those sins. You may acknowledge those sins. You may confess those sins and say, "Lord, I'm powerless to do anything, but Lord, this is a slap in my face. Lord, this is dishonoring to thy great and holy name. And Lord, I acknowledge that."

"And it grieves me and it hurts me. And I don't want this, O Lord. Arise and do something. Either be merciful and grant us repentance, O Lord, or bring thy chastening and thy judging hand against a sinful and wicked nation." In other words, we must recognize not just our sins, but the sins of others and acknowledge them and confess that their sins are against God. And they deserve His displeasure, His anger and His wrath.

Closing Prayer

He concludes with a prayer confessing collective sin and asking for God's mercy and grace.

Or if He pleases, His mercy and His grace. So how many sins do you confess? Just yours? Or those of your family, those of your society, those of your church, and those of your nation? These men prayed, "Have mercy, O Lord. We have sinned against thee. All Israel has sinned against thee." Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, we bow to thee. We thank you for your word. We thank you for your truth. We acknowledge, Lord, that we've sinned. We've sinned in so many different and grievous ways. And it's not just, Lord, each one of us as individuals. Lord, collectively, we've sinned against thee. In our churches, in our communities, in our society, in our states, in our nation, Lord, may we recognize that these sins are grievous in thy sight.

And bring forth your anger and your wrath and your judgment. And although, Lord, we may be helpless to turn people from those sins, thou art not. But may we grieve over them, Father, because it grieves thee. Give us your grace and your mercy. In the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord, whose name we ask and pray, amen.


Study Guide

Major Themes

Corporate Confession of Sin

Summary: Believers are called to confess not only personal sins but also the sins of their fathers, families, society, and nation, agreeing with God about their wickedness.

Evidence: Weaver repeatedly asks, 'Do you confess the sins of your fathers? Do you confess the sins of your society? Do you confess the sins of your family? Do you confess the sins of your nation?' and cites Daniel and Nehemiah as examples.

The Nature of True Confession

Summary: Confession (homologeo) means saying the same thing as God about sin, not just mouthing words but agreeing that sin is wicked, vile, and deserving of death.

Evidence: Weaver states, 'Confession actually means when you say the exact same thing about sin that God says... real confession is not just simply naming your sins; it's agreeing with God that your sin is wicked, vile, and a transgression, and deserves death.'

Solidarity in Sin Through Federal Headship

Summary: We sinned with our fathers representatively because Adam was our federal head, and what he did, we did; similarly, Christ is the last Adam, whose righteousness is imputed to believers.

Evidence: Weaver explains, 'Adam was our representative. He was our federal head. And what he did, we did. When he sinned, we sinned. When he fell, we fell.'

Inherited Sin and Consequences

Summary: Sin has consequences that extend to descendants, both through learned behavior and inherited tendencies, as God visits iniquity to the third and fourth generation.

Evidence: Weaver cites Exodus 20:5 and 34:7 about visiting iniquity on children and grandchildren, and says, 'there does seem to be an inherited tendency as well. Something genetic.'

National and Governmental Sin

Summary: Nations, as extended families or ethnic groups, can sin collectively, and governments can frame mischief by law, making sin legal.

Evidence: Weaver references Psalm 94:20-21 about the 'throne of iniquity' that 'frameth mischief by a law' and Psalm 83 about nations conspiring against God.

Grieving Over the Sins of Others

Summary: Believers should be grieved by the sins of society and nation, as David was in Psalm 119:53, and should confess them even if they cannot repent for others.

Evidence: Weaver says, 'Has horror taken hold upon you... enough to lead you to confess and acknowledge the sins of our society as well as our nation?' and cites Psalm 119:53.

Key Arguments

We have sinned with our fathers similarly

Summary: We were in our fathers' loins when they sinned, as Levi paid tithes in Abraham, so their sins are attributed to us.

Evidence: Weaver uses Hebrews 7:9-10 to show Levi paid tithes in Abraham, then argues, 'if the good is attributed to the children... would not the evil also be attributed?'

We have sinned with our fathers imputatively

Summary: Adam's sin is imputed to all humanity, resulting in death, proving original sin.

Evidence: Weaver cites Romans 5:12-19, emphasizing 'by one man's disobedience many were made sinners' and that death proves imputation.

We have sinned with our fathers representatively

Summary: Adam was our federal head, and his sin is counted as ours; Christ is the last Adam, whose righteousness is imputed to believers.

Evidence: Weaver explains federal headship from 1 Corinthians 15:45-49 and Romans 6:3-5, stating 'what He did, we did.'

We have sinned with our fathers nationally

Summary: Nations are extended families that sin collectively, as seen in Israel and other ethnic groups.

Evidence: Weaver cites Psalm 43:1, Isaiah 1:4, and Jeremiah 5:23 to show nations as sinful ethnic groups.

We have sinned with our fathers actually

Summary: We repeat and often worsen the sins of our fathers, as seen in Israel's history.

Evidence: Weaver references Nehemiah 1:6, 9:2, 1 Kings 14:22, and 2 Kings 15:9 to show confession of fathers' sins and doing worse than them.

Biblical precedent for corporate confession

Summary: Daniel, Nehemiah, and the psalmist confessed not only their own sins but the sins of their people and fathers.

Evidence: Weaver reads Daniel 9:5-11 and Nehemiah 1:6, where they say 'we have sinned' and confess the iniquities of their fathers.

Scripture References

Psalm 106:6

Context: The foundational verse for the message: 'We have sinned with our fathers, we have committed iniquity, we have done wickedly.'

Psalm 90:8

Context: Mentioned as an example of secret sins: 'Thou hast set our iniquities before thee, our secret sins in the light of thy countenance.'

Psalm 19:12-13

Context: David's prayer about secret faults and presumptuous sins.

Psalm 83:2-8

Context: Illustrates nations conspiring against God and His people.

Psalm 94:20-21

Context: Shows governmental sin: 'Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?'

Psalm 119:53

Context: David's horror at the wicked forsaking God's law, used to ask if we grieve over societal sin.

Psalm 107:8,15,21,31

Context: Repeated call for men to praise the Lord for His goodness, used to illustrate failure to thank God.

1 John 1:9

Context: Promise of forgiveness if we confess our sins, with emphasis on the meaning of confession.

Matthew 23:29-33

Context: Jesus condemns the Pharisees for being children of those who killed the prophets, showing connection to fathers' sins.

Jeremiah 3:25

Context: Confession of sinning with fathers: 'we have sinned against the Lord our God, we and our fathers.'

Hebrews 7:1-10

Context: Levi paid tithes in Abraham, showing we were in our fathers' loins.

Exodus 20:5

Context: God visits iniquity of fathers on children to the third and fourth generation.

Zechariah 1:4

Context: God says, 'Be ye not as your fathers,' who did not hearken to the prophets.

Romans 5:12-19

Context: Imputation of Adam's sin and Christ's righteousness; death proves original sin.

Romans 6:3-5

Context: Believers died, buried, and raised with Christ through federal headship.

Nehemiah 1:6

Context: Nehemiah confesses sins of Israel and his father's house.

Historical References

Christians arrested for praying in front of an abortion clinic

Context: Weaver mentions recent Christians facing 11 years in prison for praying at an abortion clinic, contrasting with unprosecuted rioters.

Marxism, humanism, and paganism taught to children

Context: He laments that children are taught these instead of God's law, as a societal sin.

Job offering sacrifices for his children

Context: Weaver references Job's practice of offering sacrifices in case his children sinned unknowingly.

Abraham's battle with five kings and meeting Melchisedec

Context: Genesis 14 event used to illustrate Levi paying tithes in Abraham.

Bill Evans quote on biblical nation as extended family

Context: Weaver quotes Bill Evans defining nation (ethnos) as a particular people group akin to a large extended family.

Muslims and Chinese as family groups that hate Christ

Context: Used as modern examples of ethnic groups that generally reject Christ and His law.

America's moral decline

Context: Weaver points to America's downhill slide before illegal immigration, as an example of national sin.

Important Quotes

Confession actually means when you say the exact same thing about sin that God says. When you take the attitude about sin that God takes about sin. In other words, real confession is not just simply naming your sins; it's agreeing with God that your sin is wicked, vile, and a transgression, and deserves death.

Significance: Defines the core meaning of confession as agreement with God's view of sin, foundational to the message.

We have sinned with our fathers. We have committed iniquity. We have done wickedly.

Significance: The key verse (Psalm 106:6) that prompts the entire sermon on corporate sin and confession.

Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law.

Significance: Psalm 119:53 used to challenge believers to grieve over societal sin.

We do not become sinners when we sin. We sin because we're sinners.

Significance: Succinct statement of the doctrine of original sin and imputation.

If you don't like the truth of representation and federal headship, then you don't really like the truth of salvation, because the failure of the first man set the stage for the success of the second man.

Significance: Connects the doctrine of federal headship in Adam to salvation in Christ, showing its necessity.

History does not repeat itself. It is sin that repeats itself and brings the same consequences, conditions, and judgments.

Significance: Explains why we actually commit the same sins as our fathers.

We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land.

Significance: Daniel's prayer (Daniel 9:5-6) as a model of corporate confession.

Discussion Questions

What does it mean to 'confess' sin according to 1 John 1:9, and how does that differ from simply naming sins?

Context: Weaver explains that confession (homologeo) means saying the same thing as God about sin.

In what ways have we 'sinned with our fathers' similarly, and how does Hebrews 7 illustrate this?

Context: Weaver argues we were in our fathers' loins when they sinned, using Levi paying tithes in Abraham.

How does the doctrine of imputation (Romans 5:12-19) affect our understanding of personal and corporate sin?

Context: Weaver explains that Adam's sin is imputed to all, and death proves original sin.

Why is Jesus called the 'last Adam,' and how does federal headship provide hope for salvation?

Context: Weaver contrasts Adam's failure with Christ's success as federal heads.

What biblical examples show that nations or ethnic groups can sin collectively, and how should that inform our prayers?

Context: Weaver cites Psalm 83, Isaiah 1:4, and others to show national sin.

How do the prayers of Daniel and Nehemiah model confession of corporate sins, and what can we learn from them?

Context: Weaver reads Daniel 9 and Nehemiah 1 as examples of confessing sins of people and fathers.

What are some specific sins of our society or nation that we should confess, even if we cannot repent for others?

Context: Weaver mentions abortion, sodomy, transgenderism, theft, and persecution as examples.

How can we cultivate a heart that grieves over the sins of others, as David did in Psalm 119:53?

Context: Weaver asks if horror has taken hold of us because of the wicked forsaking God's law.

Applications

Confess personal sins with true agreement with God

Summary: Examine your own sins and confess them by agreeing with God that they are wicked and deserving of death, not just listing them.

Evidence: Weaver says, 'real confession is not just simply naming your sins; it's agreeing with God that your sin is wicked, vile, and a transgression, and deserves death.'

Confess the sins of your fathers and family

Summary: Acknowledge and confess the sins of your ancestors and family members, recognizing their impact and your solidarity with them.

Evidence: Weaver asks, 'Do you confess the sins of your fathers? ... Do you confess the sins of your family?' and cites Nehemiah 1:6.

Confess the sins of your society and nation

Summary: Grieve over societal sins like abortion, immorality, and injustice, and confess them to God, even if you cannot change them.

Evidence: Weaver says, 'Have you confessed those sins? Have you acknowledged them?' regarding societal and national sins.

Confess the sins of your church

Summary: Recognize and confess collective sins within the church, as part of corporate confession.

Evidence: Weaver includes 'those of your church' in the list of sins to confess.

Grieve over the failure of others to praise God

Summary: Be troubled that many receive God's goodness without thanking Him, and confess this ingratitude as sin.

Evidence: Weaver says, 'Has it ever bothered you that men take advantage of God's goodness... and then fail to praise Him?' and models thanking God even for mercies to the wicked.

Pray for God's mercy or judgment on national sin

Summary: Like Daniel, pray that God would either grant repentance or bring chastening judgment on a sinful nation.

Evidence: Weaver prays, 'Arise and do something. Either be merciful and grant us repentance, O Lord, or bring thy chastening and thy judging hand against a sinful and wicked nation.'

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